ShavO Posted November 7, 2011 at 04:33 PM Share Posted November 7, 2011 at 04:33 PM Salut les gens, Je compte faire installer un Stellartone ToneStyler sur ma Gibson Blackbird, qui actuellement possède une électro composée de : switch on/off -- blend micros -- volume. Je souhaite virer le potard de volume pour y installer le TS, j'ai envoyer un mail avec photo de ma cavité électro chez Stellartone, un gars, Don, très sympa, a l'air d'avoir compris ce que je voulais et m'a donc répondu......seulement ça devient compliqué pour moi aussi bien pour la traduction que pour la partie "technique".... donc si certains ont du temps à me consacrer La réponse de Don: Yes - you can entirely remove the volume pot, and replace it with a master ToneStyler. This will serve to add some brightness and output level to the bass, as you are also removing the fixed 500K loading of the volume pot. On a related note: your Bourns blend pot is a 250K type. This means that each pickup has the equivalent of one 250K volume control connected to it. Are you satisfied with the maximum brightness & level of your two pickups as-is? If you feel that a further signal boost is worth the effort, just swap out the current 250K pan/blend pot with the 500K/500K variety: http://store.stellartone.com/prostores/servlet/Detail?no=134 We sell these in both split-shaft and solid-shaft. These are the new "MN" linear taper, which offers the smoother transition/blend as you move out of the center "both pickups" detent. The older audio taper pan/blend pots changed the pickup mix so rapidly when moving out of the center detent, that they worked about as well as a three-way toggle switch. Anyway, if you want to try a 500K/500K pot, you can likely source one locally, from a parts supplier in Europe. Your photo indicates that your ON-OFF switch is wired improperly. Although this works OK as-is, it's very simple to make it work perfectly. Presently, you are creating an open circuit to create silence - this can add noise at the amp, as the signal wire is open, but is not receiving any signal. The solution is to wire the switch as a "kill switch" - instead of breaking the signal circuit between the blend pot and the output jack, you just short it out to the ground. A shorted-out cable produces zero noise at the amp. The correct wiring for a blend pot plus a master ToneStyler, plus kill switch is seen in this diagram: http://www.stellartone.com/files/2.2_J-Bass+ToneStyler.pdf All you are doing is skipping the illustrated volume pot, and replacing it with your on-off kill switch. The output of the blend pot connects to both the RED ToneStyler input wire, and one terminal of the kill switch (the diagram shows terminal #3 of the volume pot), plus the output jack's tip terminal (this wire is shown as connected to the volume pot terminal #2 on the diagram). The other terminal on the kill switch is then wired to a ground wire. Simple! I hope this reply has answered your questions? If not, please write again if you have additional questions... Thanks again for your interest! Best regards, Don Stellartone Customer Service Dept. * photo de la cavité : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kascollet Posted November 7, 2011 at 04:42 PM Share Posted November 7, 2011 at 04:42 PM (edited) Et ben, ils sont vraiment sympa en plus d'être compétents chez Stellartone. Le gars décrit toutes les améliorations possibles pour aboutir au câblage idéal pour ta basse, qui est d'ailleurs à très peu de choses près ce que mon luthier est en train de concocter sur ma PB. (balance 500/500, switch, Tonestyler, mais avec un volume 1000k en plus). Quelle partie te gêne en particulier ? Edited November 7, 2011 at 04:44 PM by kascollet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasgor Posted November 7, 2011 at 05:20 PM Share Posted November 7, 2011 at 05:20 PM Est-ce qu'au passage on peut m'expliquer ce qu'est un tonestyler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShavO Posted November 7, 2011 at 05:47 PM Author Share Posted November 7, 2011 at 05:47 PM (edited) @Nasgor : tu comprendras sans doute mieux : http://forum.onlybas...s-standard-usa/ @Kasco : en fait, je veux savoir concrètement ce qu'il me conseille de faire, histoire de savoir quoi dire au luthier ! Edit :Pour le remplacement de mon potard blend 250K par un 500k, j'ai bien compris, c'est surtout concernant la 2e et 3e partie... concernant mon switch etc... Edited November 7, 2011 at 07:00 PM by shavo62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaowZ Posted November 7, 2011 at 06:21 PM Share Posted November 7, 2011 at 06:21 PM Est-ce qu'au passage on peut m'expliquer ce qu'est un tonestyler? c'est un potard de tonalité mais un peu spécial.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kascollet Posted November 7, 2011 at 06:52 PM Share Posted November 7, 2011 at 06:52 PM C'est un potard de tonalité... de ouf ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasgor Posted November 9, 2011 at 01:46 PM Share Posted November 9, 2011 at 01:46 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShavO Posted April 14, 2012 at 09:18 AM Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 at 09:18 AM Qqun aurait vu un TS dans une boutique ? on dirait qu'il n'y en a plus nul part..... même chez Bestbassgear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kascollet Posted April 14, 2012 at 09:30 AM Share Posted April 14, 2012 at 09:30 AM Faut commander chez le fabriquant je crois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShavO Posted April 14, 2012 at 10:12 AM Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 at 10:12 AM Je vais les recontacter, ils m'avaient filé l'adresse du distributeur en Allemagne mais ils n'en ont plus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolganoFF Posted April 14, 2012 at 10:53 AM Share Posted April 14, 2012 at 10:53 AM http://www.stellartone.com/Page.asp?NavID=295 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShavO Posted April 14, 2012 at 10:58 AM Author Share Posted April 14, 2012 at 10:58 AM c'est fait, merci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kascollet Posted April 14, 2012 at 11:02 AM Share Posted April 14, 2012 at 11:02 AM Coool, j'ai un Tonestyler collector d'une série épuisée ! Trop fier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolganoFF Posted April 16, 2012 at 07:25 AM Share Posted April 16, 2012 at 07:25 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaowZ Posted April 16, 2012 at 07:44 AM Share Posted April 16, 2012 at 07:44 AM Dolga sourit parce qu'il peut t'en faire un mais en mieux, le Mégatone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolganoFF Posted April 16, 2012 at 08:01 AM Share Posted April 16, 2012 at 08:01 AM Pas en ce moment: plus de composants pour l'ancien design et le nouveau pas encore développé (mais en cours) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaowZ Posted April 16, 2012 at 08:55 AM Share Posted April 16, 2012 at 08:55 AM donc pour toi aussi, la prod. 2012 est momentanément terminée.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolganoFF Posted April 16, 2012 at 08:58 AM Share Posted April 16, 2012 at 08:58 AM Pas de bol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShavO Posted April 17, 2012 at 03:32 PM Author Share Posted April 17, 2012 at 03:32 PM Dolga sourit parce qu'il peut t'en faire un mais en mieux, le Mégatone Ho....mais si l'ami Dolga pourrait éventuellement m'en faire un, ce serait pas de refus D'ailleurs je ne sais même pas si le TS est assez grand pour passer la défonce de la TBird.... à voir les photos je dirai que oui m'enfin...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolganoFF Posted April 17, 2012 at 03:46 PM Share Posted April 17, 2012 at 03:46 PM Je crois qu'on en a déjà parlé avec toi ou j me trompe? Il faut pas que la paroi de la cavité électro dépasse 4 mm. Si elle est plus épaisse, c'est cuit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShavO Posted April 17, 2012 at 03:48 PM Author Share Posted April 17, 2012 at 03:48 PM Je vais mesurer pour être fixé. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShavO Posted April 17, 2012 at 04:20 PM Author Share Posted April 17, 2012 at 04:20 PM Cool.... j'ai 5mm et des broutilles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolganoFF Posted April 18, 2012 at 08:09 PM Share Posted April 18, 2012 at 08:09 PM Trop épais... Ensuite il y a moyen de la réduire ( à la défonceuse), mais bon, c'est une intervention un peu plus sérieuse qu'un bête montage, c'est pas à la portée de tout le monde quand même Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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